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[edit] Wiki about Glossolalia, Speaking in Tongues and Falsificationism
My name is Stephanus van Rensburg. My contact is stephanusR AT gmail DOT com This wiki is an attempt to help linguists falsify my tongues. My tongues seems to take the phonemes from the entire spectrum of Slavic E-European languages and mixes it into a completely new language. The words can be found on Google.
[edit] Tongues uploaded to Wikipedia
Go to Wikipedia for my tongues media file that I have uploaded.
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Glossolalia#Example_of_actual_tongue_recording
Which contains the link to my tongues media file.
* http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Tongue12feb.ogg TongueSpeaker 12:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC) * http://www.esnips.com/web/TongueSpeaker 6min Audio recording in Tongues * http://www.esnips.com/web/TongueSpeaker1 Another 6min Glossolalia * http://www.esnips.com/web/Tongues45Transcribed 17mins of transcribed - googled - Tongues * Tongues45Transcribed * 22Apr2007With200GoogleHits Just the Google hits for my language
[edit] Firefox bookmarkings of my tongues
These bookmarkings of my tongues as I listen to myself speaking will help a linguist in his attempt at falsifying my belief that I am speaking by the power of the Holy Spirit and the might Name of Jesus Christ. God in the flesh, the Word, the Logos, who sustains the universe by the power of his Word. The words contain both vowels and consonants. For example one specific word I heard myself speak on 24 Feb 2007 was a vowel with only two Google hits. Some of words generated only 1 Google hit, some a millions hits. As I have time I speak in tongues while surfing the Internet. I can decide to either listen to my spirit speak in tongues or ignore my spirit speaking and read the latest news on Yahoo etc. Paul said in Corinthians that:" .... the mind is not involved....". Each entry below are words added from day to day while on the Internet , bookmarking it in Firefox. So for example on 24 Feb 2007 I spoke in tongues and listened to myself speaking, waiting for some word that I can type in on Google. Once I hear a word, I stop speaking in tongues Google for it first. It would be better for a linguist to make a transcript of the tongues I uploaded to Wikipedia and then generate an entry on this wiki in a subsection, since I don't want to see what words my spirit spoke to the Almight God and Father of my Lord Jesus Christ. I have no idea how as to the exact spelling the words my spirit speaks and this needs to be taken in consideration in your attempt at falsifying my tongues.
[edit] Jesus Christ provided a way of disproving his claims
As I listen to myself speaking in tongues I write down the words I sort of can make out. This allows a linguist to falsify my belief that I am speaking in a supernatural language by the power of the Holy Spirit. The Lord Jesus who gave me this language at age 12 said in Mark 16:16 "... they shall speak in new tongues..." He thus gave a falsification test for his claim of being God. He provided a way of disproving his claim of being God in the flesh. None of the other mainstream religions in the world had a human being on this earth actually claiming to be God. Only this man Jesus whos historical existance is beyond dispute actually claimed to be God.John 1:1 :In the beginnig was the Word(Logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Genes for example are not like a language - it is a language. And thus what sort of "hint" or "sign" would be more appropriate for the God of this universe to give to this planet than something related to language? With the tools of linguistics such a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphology_%28linguistics%29 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonetics and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax a language can be analized to a high degree of accuracy. Language and language like structures are inherently open for linguistic and scientific analysis and hence can be falsified. Some Hindu God for example has eight arms. How am I supposed to disprove that this God doesn't have eight arms? What falsification test is given? When you walk on the grass, you are walking on language. We are surrounded by trillions and trillions of code structures. If God is really God, then would he not give some sort of "language like" sign for his existence? Even Paul said: " ... tongues is a sign to the unbeliever, Christianity is the only religion that makes an attempt at giving a falsification test for its claims.
[edit] Virtually nobody can speak in tongues today
There is only a few Christians that can speak in tongues today. That falling down on television is auto suggestive hypnosis. A person falling down and then babbeling some nonsense thinks that the Holy Spirit is now speaking through him. Later in life many of these Christians read up on the peer reviewed academic studies on Glossolalia and the full force of William T. Samarin and F.D. Goodman's research begins to dawn on them they loose their faith. I would urge you not to renounce your faith in the Lord Jesus, you would not be able to come back to God at a later stage for there is now no more sacrifices that can be brought. Paul says in Hebrews that there is only one sacrifice. If you reject Christ after accepting him as your personal savior, because you realized you are only speaking babble - you are doomed. You have rejected the blood and the only way to salvation. My faith begins and ends at the cross of Christ. I trust fully in the physical dripping blood sacrifice of Christ on the cross. There my salvation was wrought and as for me,I shall glory only in the cross.
Benny Hinn can't speak in tongues for example. As I speak I lookup the words on http://www.google.com in real time and then bookmark them. I don't go back and look at what I have spoken though so as not remember these words with my mind. A book can be read by me as I speak in tongues at the same time. I have never been http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slain_in_the_Spirit, hypnotized or been in a trance. "....In most cases, their fall is broken by deacons, catchers, ushers or orderlies behind them to prevent injury." If these falling down experiences were really from God then why do the people need to be caught? And the fact that women have to covered by blankets because they lie on the ground in "compromising" positions means God had nothing to do with it. The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_blessing is false.
[edit] Paul commanded that prophesies be judged
[Copy and pasted wrong link will get correct link from youtube.com] is an example of what tongues is not supposed to sound like. Prophecy is a supernatural utterance in a known language. Interpretation of tongues and tongues are equivalent to prophecy. Therefore tongues itself must be judged. And the lady on the video is not speaking a language but engaging in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliteration.
[edit] The day I received the Holy Spirit
I was 12 years old. This day and the day I got Born Again at 10, I will never forget. I was fully conscious, that is why I remember it so well. The sun was hiding behind the clouds. My bed was against the wall. There was no music playing. As I looked out over the pool I knelt. I mustered all the faith I had which wasn't much and asked the Lord Jesus to baptize me with the Holy Spirit. I then opened my eyes and said: "I receive the Holy Spirit". As I fully aware of my surroundings yielded my tongue , I lost complete control of my vocal cords and spoke a language. The joy was indescribable - which is why I remember it so well. The Spirit of God is a gentle Spirit and did not knock me to the ground. The Holy Spirit simply spoke to God using my tongue. I did not speak anything that "came into my mind". No I yielded my mouth and with faith expected God to miracolously stream words using my tongue as he promised. I did the yielding but He did the talking. Christ said that "... how much more will God give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him.?" And thus with the faith of a child I boldly entered the presence of God and received his promise - the Holy Spirit. Not money or wealth but the Holy Spirit.
[edit] Be wary of the dogs
The Apostle Paul said to be "...wary of the dogs." Like http://www.tbn.org. They are slow bellies and evil beasts, damnable herretics. Modern day Christianity is the biggest legalized Ponzi scam in the world where people are fooled out of 10% of their money. God doesn't want 10% of your money, you can't bribe Him. He just want's you!
[edit] Marjoe Gortner self-confessed conman
Marjoe Gortner is a self confessed conman. He made a documentary about how he fleeced people out of their money while holding revival meetings. It is of significance what he had to say about tongues, since he himself engaged in Glossolalia while preaching to large crowds. A linguist would have falsified his tongues - it was gibberish strung together. See MarjoeGortner
[edit] Open letter to Jimmy Swaggart
LetterToJimmySwaggart TongueSpeaker 12:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Always engage God with your mind in Judeo Christian tradition
The biblical view is to always engage God with your mind, which is why hypnosis and trances are so dangerous. God will never override your willpower and thus you must maintain control of your mental faculties so that you don't deceive yourself if you have a religious experience. Google with the phrase "slain in the Spirit" for theological perspectives.
[edit] Toronto scam
A Gentleman who has writ lately in defence of reviv’d Prophecy, and has since fallen himself into the prophetick Extasys, tells us, “That the antient Prophets had the Spirit of God upon them under Extasy, with divers strange Gestures[46] of Body denominating them Madmen, (or Enthusiasts) as appears evidently, says he, in the Instances of Balaam, Saul, David, Ezekiel, Daniel,&c.” And he proceeds to justify this by the Practice of the Apostolick Times, and by the Regulation which the ‡ Apostle himself applies to these seemingly irregular Gifts, so frequent and ordinary (as our Author pretends) in the primitive Church, on the first rise and spreading of Christianity. But I leave it to him to make the Resemblance as well as he can between his own and the Apostolick way. I only know, that the Symptoms he describes, and which himself (poor Gentleman!) labours under, are as Heathenish as he can possibly pretend them to be Christian. And when I saw him lately under an Agitation (as they call it) uttering Prophecy in a pompous Latin Style, of which, out of his Extasy, it seems, he is wholly incapable; it brought into my mind the Latin Poet’s Description of the Sibyl, whose Agonys were so perfectly like these.
- Immediately her face changes, her colour flies, her hair falls in disorder, her breast heaves and her heart swells with mad passion; greater her stature seems,[47] and her voice not mortal, for she is breathed upon by the god now imminent.
And again presently after:
The prophetess rages monstrously in the cave, seeking to cast from her breast the mighty God; so much the more he compels the rabid mouth, ruling the wild heart, and moulds her by his force.2
Which is the very Style of our experienc’d Author. “For the Inspir’d (says he) undergo a Probation, wherein the Spirit, by frequent Agitations, forms the Organs, ordinarily for a Month or two before Utterance.”
[edit] The Gold Dust phenomena
The Benny Hinn golddust scam with people suddenly realising they have gold teeth is what happens when elderly people enter the first stages of dementia and altzheimers - they have forgotten that the dentist put it there when they were 20.
[edit] Samarin
W. Samarin, "Tongues of Men and Angels. The Religious Language of Pentecostalism," Macmillan (1972).
[edit] External links
* EvolutionDiscussion * TheoryOfGradualEvolution * http://www.archive.org/details/HolyGhostPeople Video archive of Glossolalia * http://www.tombrown.org He is a fraud and can't speak in tongues. * http://www.spiritword.org.za Another huckster who can't speak in tongues. * http://www.christianissues.biz/tongues.html?link=google * http://www.christianissues.biz/pdf-bin/tongues/todaystongues.pdf * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_ecstasy * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaman * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altered_state_of_consciousness * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slain_in_the_Spirit * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_possession * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotropic_drug * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_conversion * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphoria * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0331374/ * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphology_%28linguistics%29 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonetics * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Glossolalia#Example_of_actual_tongue_recording
