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Archived to June 23, 2015.
I looked into different ways to load the scripts, and according to the dev wiki importArticles is the best for performance. Now, you said it causes your mobile device to crash. I looked into this, and I discovered this. The Runescape Wiki uses this page in very interesting ways that I think we could adapt to here. See for yourself. This would provide faster performance for computers without crashing mobile devices. ~Curiouscrab (talk) 14:22, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
A few things, which I’ll enumerate.
Dev wiki members are other Wikians, like you and I. Their expertise certainly exceeds – by an order of magnitude! – the average Wikian. But, their best practices suggestions are just that: suggestions. They are not edicts from on high.
A number of equally skilled Wikians disagree about the benefits of importArticles
Your predecessor here (a professional in this field) and I tried importArticles and had it working quite well. (He was a real believer in it.) But, it was never consistent.
It may be great for us to use importArticles here, but when someone visits this wiki who uses the older method either in their local or global JS, they often encounter JS issues including with scripts we are loading via importArticles
It’s too buggy, and too much effort to maintain.
Generally, when the word mobile is used around Wikia – and specifically with pages like Mediawiki:Wikiamobile-menu – it means smartphones, iPod Touch, and other relatively small-screen devices. It does not mean tablets like iPad.
iPads are fully HTML5, CSS, JS, JQuery, etc., etc., compliant and compatible. iPad users use browsers (e.g., Safari, Chrome, etc.) to access Wikia and WMF sites. The only thing they lack is a JS console. (They can, however, integrate a CSS console into the Safari browser (which I have done).) Chances are if JS breaks on iPad, it will also break on a Mac. An iPad is essentially a small laptop computer.
Having said that, I recognize and acknowledge that this wiki is not mobile-compatible. By that I mean that it is not compatible with iPod Touch/iPhone users. That is a project that you can take on, if you want. There are some specialized tools for that purpose. At a later date, if you’re interested, I’ll introduce them to you and assign you the project.
Don’t waste time with importArticles. We will not be implementing it here or at ATW. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 06:34, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
Alright. Then, I guess there isn't much other to try and do with mobile stuff unless a user reports issues that I might be able to fix. BTW, I used my console to see how the function works and there are no parameters, so it actually uses another script to import all the data values via tables and thus that probably would overload a "mobile" (in this case, anything that can be move and used easily at the same time) device that isn't really meant for things as complex as that. ~Curiouscrab (talk) 17:32, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
Here at the bottom of the page there is the text "Loading..." Any ideas what it's doing there? ~Curiouscrab (talk) 19:16, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
Yep. I know exactly what’s going on there. That is the Admin Dashboard. It is a page unique to Wikia that brings together many of the tools used by Administrators on a daily basis. But, it only works properly in the Oasis skin. Try this link here to see how it’s supposed to look.Look, I like Monobook. At Wikipedia, I still use it over Vector. At Wikia, I still edit all CSS/JS pages in Monobook. But, it simply is not the skin for which Wikia is designed. The main pages of most popular wikis here — even the main page at Community Central! — are simply not compatible with Monobook. (We keep the main pages at SP and ATW simple so that they remain compatible with Monobook.) You need to switch over if you are going to admin at Wikia. First, switch to Oasis in your preferences. Then, under Editing at Special:Preferences, make your settings look like these. This keeps you editing in source mode — just like in Monobook — and not having to use either of Wikia’s horrible wysiwyg editors. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 06:56, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
P.S. If you want, I can give you screen caps that show you how to set-up the amazing Oasis toolbar at the bottom of the screen. It’s so awesome, I almost never use pulldown menus, etc. Everything I need is on my personal toolbar. — SpikeToronto 06:56, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
P.P.S. On the AdminDashboard, never ever use these buttons:
Doing so will get one permabanned so fast one will get whiplash. No appeals. Thank you. — SpikeToronto 07:04, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
Fantabulous!! Thanks! — SpikeToronto 12:01, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
Jcnsteve is giving me some trouble. He dosen't explain why he's deletes/adds things.He's puts the Buttocks and nudity links in the Bo sheep page. And then he insults me when I didn't even do and thing to him.
Plus I'm sorry, If I didn't edit this properly. I'm still learning. — UsagiCandy
Do you have any links where I can see him doing any of this?Thanks! — SpikeToronto 11:52, July 1, 2015 (UTC)