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Xfce4 runs fine on both my laptops, needs a couple UI tweaks

Shutdown buttons are greyed out for normal users. Using sudo grants the needed privileges, so start visudo and add the following

 username        ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/xfsm-shutdown-helper

I also suggest to alter the windows buttons and put the windows close button on one side alone. So each time you want to resize a window it gets difficult to close it by chance. That's how original macos worked.

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